Yamaha R-N301

[Ghost]

Be advised: The line output on the back of the Yamaha R-N301 will output audio for all the sources connected and the internal radio tuner (as you would expect). But it does NOT output any audio from any of the internal audio streaming (either online services, or from network connected devices). WTF!

Was confirmed by Yamaha tech support tonight that this was intended and that streaming audio should not be available on the line outputs. I have a reply back asking "why the F^"


So before you go planning a system with this receiver and plan on hooking up an external amp, know that you will have problems.
I have one now with a Crown amp hooked to it. There actually is some audio that comes thru for the streaming (about -10dB of everything else). Yamaha said this was probably just bleed thru, since they said it wasn't intended. Pretty damn strong bleed thru.
I'm trying a line preamp from PAC (LD-10), to get enough signal from the 'bleed thru' so the Crown can get full volume. As the customer is only going to be using this for streaming. What a PITA!

[Ghost]

Now that public posting is back for me

The preamp did NOT work for this, as expected. What we ended up doing was adding an AppleTV to the Yamaha. Which defeated 1/2 of the purpose of doing the R-N301 in the 1st place. Customer didn't want to spend the extra money it would have cost to go with a SONOS or HEOS ($500 vs. $300)
The customer was perfectly happy with the setup - he was blown away by the sound of everything. But I was NOT happy with the R-N301 on this issue at all. I'm still dumbfounded how Yamaha could have purposely designed this unit like that. Talk about an engineer that needed to be kicked in the nuts and take his wallet!
And no way this is an RIAA issue, since many other devices that stream music have an analog audio output.

[Ghost]

Now that I can post in public again,

The line driver didn't work (didn't think it would). Ended up running an AppleTV the customer had thru the Yamaha's external inputs. Which kind of defeated the whole purpose of getting the N301 in the first place - could have just used a 201 (it's the same receiver without streaming, app, and digital input). Customer was happy with the setup, I gave him a discount for it not ending up the way we originally discussed.

I still can not believe the stupidity of Yamaha on this. How could they design the unit like that? It has absolutely nothing to do with RIAA or any other copyright issues. They just choose to disable the audio line outputs for streaming all on their own. I just can't get over this!

[Audiophiliac]

Did you read the manual before promising something you could not deliver? :P

I am joshin' ya. I agree it is dumb.

[Kelly]

I suppose a device like the Russound ADP-1.2 would work in this case?

Use a speaker level output, convert it to line level, and then send it fo the amp.